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  • NC State outscoring FSU in second-chance points 12-2. Coincidentally FSU trails by 10 at halftime, 40-30.

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  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    Inexperience is part if it but mostly we just don't box out or play physical in the paint...

    That comes back to experience, though. Our only available interior guys are first year players. They are simply not ready to compete physically or mentally.

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  • TimLinafelt said...

    What do you think the problem is?

    My guess is Ham.

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  • NC State is even more athletic than we are and there interior screens to get Howell, Leslie and Warren open are tearing us a new one. Combine that with 10 TO's and getting destroyed on the boards and we are damn lucky to be only down 10 at half. It's a good think NCState isn't very good on Def really...

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  • fsukum said...

    That comes back to experience, though. Our only available interior guys are first year players. They are simply not ready to compete physically or mentally.

    I said it was part of it.... just not the main factor... you learn at a young age how to box out... at least try to... they seem to not even attempt to

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  • TimLinafelt said...

    What do you think the problem is?

    Combination of coaching and not very good players across the board. By the college level you should know how to rebound and box out.

    NatX

  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    I said it was part of it.... just not the main factor... you learn at a young age how to box out... at least try to... they seem to not even attempt to

    Sure, but keep in mind that we have 2 non-native players, one player who is sat out last year for an injury and one player coming in from JUCO. The competition they faced is a significant step down as is the quality of coaching.

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  • fsukum said...

    Sure, but keep in mind that we have 2 non-native players, one player who is sat out last year for an injury and one player coming in from JUCO. The competition they faced is a significant step down as is the quality of coaching.

    No doubt but the fact remains you don't see the attempt or effort there... that bugs me more than the not rebounding part... too much standing around I see...

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  • NatX said...

    Combination of coaching and not very good players across the board. By the college level you should know how to rebound and box out.

    That's not entirely fair.

    A) The talent on this team is extremely high, that's not debatable

    B) We have 2 international interior men and 2 JUCO players (1 of which hasn't played in a year)

    C) our coaching has always been under question, but keep in mind that this coach is responsible for near unprecedented heights at FSU

    D) When you have 8 players on a team of 12 (With one non-newcomer being out with an injury last year and is again this year), you're going to look bad

    This post was edited by fsukum on 2/19/2013 at 7:08 PM

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  • Just for the sake of halftime conversation:

    Player A: Freshman, decent rebounder

    -- matched up against --

    Player B: Senior, decent rebounder

    What should the expectations be for the freshman?

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  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    No doubt but the fact remains you don't see the attempt or effort there... that bugs me more than the not rebounding part... too much standing around I see...

    The guys just look completely lost to me and overwhelmed to me. I saw one interior guy helping up one of our players under the rim after a miss! lol

    NC St. then received the offensive rebound and put it back up with ease.

    It's the same way on defense. The guys are thinking too much and really aren't sure of their job. Hamilton didn't all of a sudden forget how to coach a defense.

    This post was edited by fsukum on 2/19/2013 at 7:06 PM

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  • TimLinafelt said...

    Just for the sake of halftime conversation:

    Player A: Freshman, decent rebounder

    -- matched up against --

    Player B: Senior, decent rebounder

    What should the expectations be for the freshman?

    What we've been seeing.

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  • TimLinafelt said...

    Just for the sake of halftime conversation:

    Player A: Freshman, decent rebounder

    -- matched up against --

    Player B: Senior, decent rebounder

    What should the expectations be for the freshman?

    I am more talking the season not just this game. I agree and get the young and being inexperienced, however there has been many times ( not just our you big men ) that guys are watching the ball being shot rather than looking to box out....

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  • fsukum said...

    The guys just look completely lost to me and overwhelmed to me. I saw one interior guy helping up one of our players under the rim after a miss! lol

    NC St. then received the offensive rebound and put it back up with ease.

    It's the same way on defense. The guys are thinking too much and really aren't sure of their job. Hamilton didn't all of a sudden forget how to coach a defense.

    Trust me I am a Ham fan.... lack of effort bugs me, but that is mainly cause I am a coach.... I could lose by 100 but if we played with effort and tried then I can't be mad...

    It is the effort that kills me

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  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    I am more talking the season not just this game.

    So am I. I didn't pose the question as a means to argue against your point.

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  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    I am more talking the season not just this game. I agree and get the young and being inexperienced, however there has been many times ( not just our you big men ) that guys are watching the ball being shot rather than looking to box out....

    I think that is guys just not knowing their role or knowing what their teammates roles are. 8 of our 11 healthy players are first year guys.

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  • Turnovers have been just as bad if not worse on FSU this year than the rebounding or lack there of

    This post was edited by FSUgoNoles24 on 2/19/2013 at 7:11 PM

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  • NC State increases its lead to 13. 45-32 with 17 remaining.

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  • I get that, trust me I do but eventually you have to hold them accountable for not making the effort ... I mean the season is nearing an end and it is the same thing.... next year I feel we will be a much improved team based on getting experience but this year the lack of effort is annoying

    This post was edited by FSUgoNoles24 on 2/19/2013 at 7:14 PM

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  • fsukum said...

    I think that is guys just not knowing their role or knowing what their teammates roles are. 8 of our 11 healthy players are first year guys.

    Kentucky has not had that problem with their freshman players the last few years

    NatX

  • Thomas drives and then hands it off to White who finishes...but Warren comes right back with a three ball on the other end.

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