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This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by PanicFSU on 5/15/2012 at 6:24 AM
Barron weighs in on FSU-Big 12 rumors
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PanicFSU said...
States he thinks he angered the alumni with his email this morning. Sounds like he didn't get the response/reaction he was hoping to get.
So it took him less than 8 hours to be forced to explain himself in his email? Sounds like a weak leader.
He probably hit "Reply to All" and now is reaping the consequences. E-mail will getcha in some trouble. You have to drop some false information to cover your emotion and he messed up.
I told my bro-in-law (FSU Alum '95) I would buy his season tickets if he made sure I went to the games with him if/when you guys get into the Big 12.
I hope my mouth did not write a check my a$$ can't cash...
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NoleDude said...
Not to get off the subject but the guy wanted unlimited tuition hikes on future students and got his panties in a wad when they shot that down. He is angry over fsu's academic finances and lashing out at the athletic gurus for looking for a solution to their shortfalls ie (exploring options). He sounds a little crazy to be honest.
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tricknole said...
That is a flat out lie. Get your facts straight. He and the UF president got the legislature to pass a bill that would've required the two schools (and any other state university) to meet certain academic qualifications. If those were met they would be allowed to charge market rate tuition for certain programs IF AND ONLY IF our Board of Trustees approved it. You ARE aware that we have some of the cheapest tuition in the nation, right? If tuition would've gone too high you would've seen decreased applicants and tuition would've been able to be corrected. But the governor vetoed it. Oddly, a republican is in favor of governmental price controls and not the free market.
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As far as all of you saying we should fire Barron, don't be idiots. Firing your president over some comments he made about athletic conferences? That's a great way to have nobody apply to be your new president. He says we need to at least do our homework on it. What more could you ask at this point? He's aware of the fan interest and unrest. Let's see where the football playoff goes and how much the Big 12 and SEC officially sign for. At that point there will be more definitive proof one way or the other and a decision would be easier to make.
But please, for the love of god, knock off this "Fire Barron" crap. It makes us all look like fools. Many of us obviously attended or have family that attended and want to see BOTH academics and athletics be the best they can be. Removing Barron over THIS would show that we don't take academics seriously and that the rest of the country should assume our university is a joke. Jmo.
I honestly don't want him to be fired(unless it comes out that we haven't FULLY explored all options). I sat back a minute(actually had 8 hours at work to think about this), and thought about what he said. The overall message, while the minutia of the details were flawed, was good. I think(feel) we should explore EVERY options, and have all the facts before making a decision. Will agree that he should've reviewed the email more before he sent it(or at least looked at the tone of it).
Edit-Just to put this out there, while I personally didn't attend FSU, I have had several family members(including my wife and an uncle who played there in the late 70's) who attended, and was basically indoctrinated to love all things FSU. But I want what's best for both the academic side and athletic side. I feel that the budget shortfalls could be offset by athletics, if given the right situation.
This post was edited by Armynole03 on 5/15/2012 at 1:10 AM
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tricknole said...
That is a flat out lie. Get your facts straight. He and the UF president got the legislature to pass a bill that would've required the two schools (and any other state university) to meet certain academic qualifications. If those were met they would be allowed to charge market rate tuition for certain programs IF AND ONLY IF our Board of Trustees approved it. You ARE aware that we have some of the cheapest tuition in the nation, right? If tuition would've gone too high you would've seen decreased applicants and tuition would've been able to be corrected. But the governor vetoed it. Oddly, a republican is in favor of governmental price controls and not the free market.
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As far as all of you saying we should fire Barron, don't be idiots. Firing your president over some comments he made about athletic conferences? That's a great way to have nobody apply to be your new president. He says we need to at least do our homework on it. What more could you ask at this point? He's aware of the fan interest and unrest. Let's see where the football playoff goes and how much the Big 12 and SEC officially sign for. At that point there will be more definitive proof one way or the other and a decision would be easier to make.
But please, for the love of god, knock off this "Fire Barron" crap. It makes us all look like fools. Many of us obviously attended or have family that attended and want to see BOTH academics and athletics be the best they can be. Removing Barron over THIS would show that we don't take academics seriously and that the rest of the country should assume our university is a joke. Jmo.
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tricknole said...
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As far as all of you saying we should fire Barron, don't be idiots. Firing your president over some comments he made about athletic conferences? That's a great way to have nobody apply to be your new president. He says we need to at least do our homework on it. What more could you ask at this point? He's aware of the fan interest and unrest. Let's see where the football playoff goes and how much the Big 12 and SEC officially sign for. At that point there will be more definitive proof one way or the other and a decision would be easier to make.
But please, for the love of god, knock off this "Fire Barron" crap. It makes us all look like fools. Many of us obviously attended or have family that attended and want to see BOTH academics and athletics be the best they can be. Removing Barron over THIS would show that we don't take academics seriously and that the rest of the country should assume our university is a joke. Jmo.
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InsightTexas said...
I understand your sentiment, but as an FSU alum, Barron's performance has been very unprofessional on multiple occasions at this critical moment. An astute, professional leader would have corrected the error in Haggards comment and simply said that FSU, as always, is considering all options for what is best for the university on all levels. Instead he reacted like a petulant academic in public and trashed his own BOT as well as the Big 12 for no good reason. By inference, he also trashed the FSU donor community by harshly challenging their priorities. How does that help FSU and his academic cause in any way?
All his actions and comments have created an avoidable appearance of complete disarray in FSU administration on issues that are very important to all FSU stakeholders. His amateurish performance is not sound, reasoned leadership and it has been harmful to the image of the university as a whole and to the very academic interests that are his only apparent concern.
If Barron had a clue, he would be rallying the FSU nation behind a serious and thoughtful consideration of all of FSU's options to perhaps dramatically elevate its athletic revenues to the potential benefit of its academic interests. He may have a very strong case to make for changing conferences to significantly raise athletic revenues that could be split with the academic side of the university. It is absolutely clear that he has not and will not lead a thorough and professional review of all of FSU's options to the collective detriment of all FSU constituencies.
The reality is that Mr. Barron is a narrowly focused and myopic academician rather than a sophisticated strategic thinker and insightful leader. He is clearly not ready for prime time and it is tragic that FSU does not have strong and insightful leadership at this critical time.
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InsightTexas said...
I understand your sentiment, but as an FSU alum, Barron's performance has been very unprofessional on multiple occasions at this critical moment. An astute, professional leader would have corrected the error in Haggards comment and simply said that FSU, as always, is considering all options for what is best for the university on all levels. Instead he reacted like a petulant academic in public and trashed his own BOT as well as the Big 12 for no good reason. By inference, he also trashed the FSU donor community by harshly challenging their priorities. How does that help FSU and his academic cause in any way?
All his actions and comments have created an avoidable appearance of complete disarray in FSU administration on issues that are very important to all FSU stakeholders. His amateurish performance is not sound, reasoned leadership and it has been harmful to the image of the university as a whole and to the very academic interests that are his only apparent concern.
If Barron had a clue, he would be rallying the FSU nation behind a serious and thoughtful consideration of all of FSU's options to perhaps dramatically elevate its athletic revenues to the potential benefit of its academic interests. He may have a very strong case to make for changing conferences to significantly raise athletic revenues that could be split with the academic side of the university. It is absolutely clear that he has not and will not lead a thorough and professional review of all of FSU's options to the collective detriment of all FSU constituencies.
The reality is that Mr. Barron is a narrowly focused and myopic academician rather than a sophisticated strategic thinker and insightful leader. He is clearly not ready for prime time and it is tragic that FSU does not have strong and insightful leadership at this critical time.
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tricknole said...
That is a flat out lie. Get your facts straight. He and the UF president got the legislature to pass a bill that would've required the two schools (and any other state university) to meet certain academic qualifications. If those were met they would be allowed to charge market rate tuition for certain programs IF AND ONLY IF our Board of Trustees approved it. You ARE aware that we have some of the cheapest tuition in the nation, right? If tuition would've gone too high you would've seen decreased applicants and tuition would've been able to be corrected. But the governor vetoed it. Oddly, a republican is in favor of governmental price controls and not the free market.
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As far as all of you saying we should fire Barron, don't be idiots. Firing your president over some comments he made about athletic conferences? That's a great way to have nobody apply to be your new president. He says we need to at least do our homework on it. What more could you ask at this point? He's aware of the fan interest and unrest. Let's see where the football playoff goes and how much the Big 12 and SEC officially sign for. At that point there will be more definitive proof one way or the other and a decision would be easier to make.
But please, for the love of god, knock off this "Fire Barron" crap. It makes us all look like fools. Many of us obviously attended or have family that attended and want to see BOTH academics and athletics be the best they can be. Removing Barron over THIS would show that we don't take academics seriously and that the rest of the country should assume our university is a joke. Jmo.
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