Unconquered

It's not logical. It seems it is to you, because you are also being illogical. Here's why:

1. G&G says he does not expect top 3 classes every year, but gets upset at what he believes will be a top 10 class following two top 3 classes in a row.

This is internally contradictory, =/= logic.

2. G&G assumes coaches "dropped the ball" because our class will be ranked top 10 this year. Does not account for portions of the process outside of our coaches' control, or the possibility that our coaches wanted the vast majority of the players they got and valued those players differently than the recruiting service did.

Failure to take into account other possible solutions when arriving at a result =/= logic.

Hey GG, I also tend to disagree. Right now our 2014 class looks like its going to be elite (up w 2012 caliber), and part of the reason why is because why this class MIGHT rank between 5-10. meaning we're holding spots where we see elite talent that wants to be at FSU. Hopefully, this does not fly in our face later, but have faith in the coaches, they have not let us down thus far.

Burned as in used up. We have maybe 10 left.

Dropped the ball because according to most around here this time last year we were way ahead in the state for 2013......but we are not getting nearly the number of our #1 targets we were getting last year. What happened? If we were in such great shape for 2013 and we haven't dropped the ball, then explain why this thread even exists? If the 2013 class was shaping up to the expectations we had a year ago, there would be no angst and Josh never would have had a reason to start this thread.

The other side of the coin is that the coaches are doing just fine and the belief we were way ahead of the competition this time last year for 2013 was just flat out wrong. Personally I think that is more likely. What is so wrong in calling that out?

I think our staff is very good at evaluating talent. They are just having a harder time reeling it in this year. Not a knock on anyone, just stating the obvious.

FSU will always recruit well. I feel though this staff took some kids that they could have waited on. If FSU has the season we expect to have it will be really interesting when those big time kids want to attend FSU.

With that being said.....finish with

Tunsil
Coley
Thomas
Alexander
Bryant
3 DE's

And I'm extremely happy. You continue to get the top rated kids in the State and you will continue to DOMINATE the State.

You don't really believe that do you? FSU will be in it until NSD.

Sad that he doesn't really like UF, IMO.

The first one I've heard of. He's a TE, right? 255lbs. Never heard of the other guy. He supposed to be good?

DJ Humphries was the #1 OT in the country in the 2012 class... Max Garcia was a 2 yr starter at LT for Maryland that transfered to UF.. If you never heard of DJ Humphries then you dont follow recruiting very closely..

I feel better about the class, I think its good but I think this years team is going to win it all. When recruits see how awesome this team is I think this class takes off!!

I am concerned at the moment. I know we are supposed to concentrate on "Need" over ratings, but I think it is imperative that we land an elite, consensus 5-star prospect soon. Kids look at where the elite talent is going and it affects recruiting. So far we don't have that draw to pull in more talent.

When it's all said and done we will land 3 or 4 of the following:

In order of likelihood IMO:

1) Thomas (slam dunk)
2) Kirkland (slam dunk)
3) Coley (should be ours, but may be turned off by our 2014 class)
4) Collins (I give us the edge over Wisc.)
5) McQuay (dogfight with Vandy)
6) MacAlexander (dogfight with Clemson)
7) Tunsil (with Jernigan and Trickett on our side we are in it 'til NSD)
8) Marcel Harris (I thought UF had him, but I sense he's pulling away from them; keeps saying he's his "own man," doesn't need to play where dad played; FSU, UF, UT)
9) Tim Williams (I've read we're his leader now! I don't believe it, but I think we trail only LSU. He knows how badly we want/need him)
10) Priest Willis (only because we're in his top 15 and I think USC is out of the picture now)

Does anyone think that this is NOT possible, especially, if we have a great year? Additionally, we're going to land 2-3 non-elite DEs with terrific upside (Z Smith, Bellamy, Reynolds, etc). Will this qualify as a great class? Um, yes.